ACA PERA UPDATES

ACA/PERA from DBM


AT LAST DBM MADE THE FINAL DECISON ON ACA/PERA.. ANOTHER BLESSINGS RETRO FROM JULY 2009 TILL PRESENT @ P 1K PER MONTH?... WHEW...

wow, sunod2 na itong blessings natin.. yahoooooooooooooooo!!!!

sure na to?????

....HELLO TO ALL.... walang pinagbago ang CIRCULAR NA YAN COMPARED LAST POSTED HERE........if ever that's true, why it took so long to be implemented to LBP??? just asking po.....

specialist wrote:

ACA/PERA from DBM


AT LAST DBM MADE THE FINAL DECISON ON ACA/PERA.. ANOTHER BLESSINGS RETRO FROM JULY 2009 TILL PRESENT @ P 1K PER MONTH?... WHEW...

Sir Specialist thank you for your excitement to post this DBM Circular I thought it is a recent circular but this is not a new circular. This is exactly the one being questioned by the management which is still subject to legal interpretation. This is not the final decision of DBM on ACA/PERA, this is the very first circular issued on ACA/PERA in August 2009 after SSL3 which is vague and has been subject to different interpretations.

We discussed in passing this specific circular with the management during several meetings although the entire content of the circular was not discussed. The stand of our management is that a legal interpretation of this circular has to be made specifically on the exclusion portion.

We are hoping that the legal interpretation on this ACA/PERA will be out soon for us to enjoy it.

sonia wrote:

specialist wrote:

ACA/PERA from DBM


AT LAST DBM MADE THE FINAL DECISON ON ACA/PERA.. ANOTHER BLESSINGS RETRO FROM JULY 2009 TILL PRESENT @ P 1K PER MONTH?... WHEW...

Sir Specialist thank you for your excitement to post this DBM Circular I thought it is a recent circular but this is not a new circular. This is exactly the one being questioned by the management which is still subject to legal interpretation. This is not the final decision of DBM on ACA/PERA, this is the very first circular issued on ACA/PERA in August 2009 after SSL3 which is vague and has been subject to different interpretations.

We discussed in passing this specific circular with the management during several meetings although the entire content of the circular was not discussed. The stand of our management is that a legal interpretation of this circular has to be made specifically on the exclusion portion.

We are hoping that the legal interpretation on this ACA/PERA will be out soon for us to enjoy it.

..... EXACTLY MAAM SONIA..........

Ano n kya ung update dito... ???

Let's HOPE that it will be included in the SOBA of Madam Pico on Monday...what do you think Mam Son/Sir Batman???

renzz wrote:

sonia wrote:

specialist wrote:

ACA/PERA from DBM


AT LAST DBM MADE THE FINAL DECISON ON ACA/PERA.. ANOTHER BLESSINGS RETRO FROM JULY 2009 TILL PRESENT @ P 1K PER MONTH?... WHEW...

Sir Specialist thank you for your excitement to post this DBM Circular I thought it is a recent circular but this is not a new circular. This is exactly the one being questioned by the management which is still subject to legal interpretation. This is not the final decision of DBM on ACA/PERA, this is the very first circular issued on ACA/PERA in August 2009 after SSL3 which is vague and has been subject to different interpretations.

We discussed in passing this specific circular with the management during several meetings although the entire content of the circular was not discussed. The stand of our management is that a legal interpretation of this circular has to be made specifically on the exclusion portion.

We are hoping that the legal interpretation on this ACA/PERA will be out soon for us to enjoy it.

..... EXACTLY MAAM SONIA..........

kailangan pa ba ito ng legal interpretation?
tayo sa LBP na lang cguro hindi nakapag.implement nito...

hello world, hello lbpea!!!!! hindi ba kasali sa SOBA kanina ang implem ng PERA/ACA?

For jotags:
It was not mentioned on the SOBA of Mam Pico this PERA/ACA. As discussed by Atty. Mon Cervantes during a recent meeting with them that a legal interpretation has to be made inorder to avoid any problem with COA should the interpretation be favorable to us. LBPEA and MMOAI have pending request for release of this PERA/ACA.

During the speech of Mam Pico to the LBPEA NEB and Regional Governors on July 21, 2011, she mentioned about the expenses that our bank incurred in the giving of this differential which affected so much our profitability. This July 15 differential alone caused billions to the bank.

At this point, LBPEA knows so well that we have the reason to demand for this PERA/ACA and we are not giving up on this. We are only taking a considerate stand with this present scenario that our differential ate much of our income. We will still go on asking for this PERA/ACA but we cannot force our management to give it immediately.

Ang LBPEA po hindi nagpabaya sa interim increase natin at hindi po kami magpapabaya kung meron pa kami pwedeng magawa. Maraming salamat po!

thanks maam sonia for the effort......and to the rest of LBPEA NEB....... .........two thumbs up ako dyan...

tama ka uragon. di natin kasalanan kung umabot man ng BILLIONS ang atin differential. sa totoo lang kumita pa nga sila dito. biro mo 2 years nilang pinagkakitaan ang atin pera samantalang tayo ay puro utang ang inaabot para lang madugtungan ang atin pang araw-araw na pangangailangan. isa pa, pag nag-advance sila sa atin ay may kasamang interest samantalang yon differential natin ay WALA na kung ibinigay kaagad ay makikinabang pa tayo lalo na pag dating sa PFO. at sa totoo lang po, di naman gaano ka competitive ang atin increase kumpara sa iba. mababa pa rin po ito. at panghuli, yon COLA po natin, maraming BILLIONS na po ang aabutin nyan na pambayad sa atin na kung tutuusin di naman dapat umabot ng ganun kalaki kung noon pa man bago makarating sa RTC ay nakipagkompromiso na sila atin para sa ganun ay wala na silang problema sa COLA ngayon. hehe. simpleng pag-iisip lang naman po ang kailangan don para di na umabot sa ganun kalaki. kung minsan kasi mukhang mahina din mag-isip ang kanilang mga taga-payo.

For Uragon:

With all due respect to you my friend, I have to correct you I did not mention we incur big losses the word is expense. Expense is different from loss. The impact of our differential on our net income is really significant but it does not mean that LANDBANK is operating on a net loss.

Like salary increase, there are protocols also on our PERA/ACA. Rest assured that the LBPEA is doing something together with the Middle Management Officers Association headed by Atty. Malab for this PERA/ACA.

For wala lang:
Batch 1 of our COLA is already with the Supreme Court awaiting decision. Atty. Bert Martinez-COLA Lawyer is optimistic that this will be decided upon within a year.

ALAM MO KAPATID NA MATEO (DI AKO BADING )YON NATANGGAP NATIN NA DIFFERENTIAL DAPAT TWO YEARS AGO PA YON. KUNG MARUNONG KANG MAGKWENTA, KWENTAHIN MO KUNG MAGKANO DAPAT ANG KINITA MO SA PFO IN TERMS OF DIVIDEND. AT TAMA KA MADAM SONIA, EXPENSES YON HINDI LOSSES AT NAIBAWAS NA RIN NILA YON SA PROFIT SHARING NATIN PARA SA 2009 AT 2010. MAGALING SILANG MAGKWENTA PAGDATING DON. DI SILA PAPAYAG NA ISANG BAGSAKAN ANG PAG-BOOKED AS EXPENSE. KUNG BAGA MERON TAYONG TINATAWAG NA ACCRUAL METHOD OF ACCOUNTING. KUNG INABOT MAN NG JULY 2011 YON DIFFERENTIAL NATIN DAHIL NA RIN SA DI SILA NAGING MAAGAP NOON KAYA NAUNAHAN PA TAYO NG SSL3 AT IBANG GFI's. GETS MO KAPATID NA MATEO?

My apology to MATEO for deleting his post. Let us not forget that we are all here to achieve a common goal which is to get and share information.

We are all professionals and working in a reputable banking institution. In the exercise of our freedom of expression let us maintain professionalism at all times.

Thank you!

may katwiran di naman si mateo.yong differential natin nagpataas sa tax natin dahil naipasok sa taon na ito lahat.dapat sa mababa pa tayo na bracket kong previous years pa ibinigay.yong COLA actually ang maximum limit ng SC to decide sa isang kaso ay 24 months, so to be conservative hintay tayo 2 yrs. although.mabuti naman kong one year lang.

yung increase ngayon lang nila ibingay, pinagtrabahoan na ng R&F yan.

kung may nadihado man dito, sino sa tingin nyo?

on madam sonia words " ang lbpea ay hindi nagpabaya sa interim pay increase" ........ how i wish if true because it can be corrected still. .. . bakit may terminong " untug" ang salary kung hindi kayu nagpabaya o hinayaan nyo lang dahil di kayu apektato o anu po? andami pung kasama natin ang hindi nakinabang sa sumunod na ten percent hindi kaya kapabayaan yung? nagtatanung lang pu kasi our salary tbefore ipp are earned thru merits and lenght of service tapos comes ipp, naku pu milya milya na agwat sweldo, hindi pu sa ayaw ku na tumaas sueldo kasama natin pero sana panglahatan, because all can be negiotiated, yung sabi pu nyo na yung CNA natn ay for non economic only? everything in this wolrd has monitary value as in sabi nila "time is gold and gold is a precious stone , then time has value, kaya nga sa tagal ng panahon pagtratrabaho natin sa landbank kaya naabot natin ang mga rates na yung ( as in pg- 6 at par with pg- 7 na ang agwat lang before ay 700 ngayon? nakupoooo? 7000 tsk tsk tsk

Ano na po kaya ang updates sa ACA/PERA?

There is always a reasons behind why these people are "untog".. the issue it is being rised up to the management on what will be the possible solution on the said adversity. mostly of these untog RIF were recipient of the performers reward system before and incorporated on their basic salary. Ito yong pagkakamali ng management why such rewards ranges to 10%-25% increased to your basic. kung hindi kana performers, you still enjoy such rewards.. kaya in fairness na eenjoy na nila yan in the past years which is such rewards was baseless on our law, kaya nga pinatigil at binago na yong reward system and it is now called the MIP 2.

It is only your opinion specialist... those employees na nauntog ay di dahil doon sa sinasabi mong rewards, kundi sa matagal na sila sa position nila na hindi na promote, kaya yung increase nila ay umaasa lng doon sa step increment yearly sa pay grade nila, kya lumampas na sila sa pinakadulo ng step increase kasi di sila na promote for more than 8 years, kaya nga napaka unfair sa panig nila ang untog na ito... di na promote na penalized pa...okey???

siguro po dapat ay isipin natin kung bakit di tayo napopromote. napakarami pong maaaring maging dahilan ito, halimbawa po ang plantilya sa unit natin. baka po kasi wala talagang position available.

hindi po walang position available sir batman, wala po talagang concrete na plantilla.

ok po. we, the NEB, still have more than 1year to try to come up with clear solution to address the issue. thanks po.

hindi po ang issue dito ang promotion, kundi iyong pgka untog ng salary, na deprive po kasi ng salary increase na dapat ay hindi naman, kasi di naman kasalanan nila na ng tagal sila s PGing yan, di ba? tapos paparusahan pa!!!

thanks sir batman.... Somehow, i know, you already knew this issue.

yes sir. simula po ng naupo kami as NEB, lagi po naming iginigiit ang issue na yan sa MGT. we are still working out for best remedy to the matter.

thanks again and i hope that you could spare us more understanding with our shortcomings. rest assured that we will do our best for the benefit of our members.

Ano kaya update dito?

yes, ano na ang update ..membro din ako ng mga untog ...

matanong ko na rin at i hope ma take up ito o di naman kaya mahanapan nyo ng sagot ms sonia, sir batman at atty semaj.. ano ang legal basis bakit tinapas, pinutol, tinanggal ang PG7 ng mga PAs? ginawa din ba ito sa ibang position?

i have sent last Tuesday (Aug. 16, 2011) our letter addressed to CSS Head/SVP Joji Cabreza asking for the status of the requested legal opinion which i heard have turned out to be favorable to us.

please wait for further information as soon as we received their response.

thank you very much.

kelan kaya repsonse nila?

Even us in LBPEA dont know when our management would give its response on our query requesting for status of our ACA/PERA.

Ang importante po hindi natin pinapabayaan ang benefit na ito. We are constantly making representation in this regard. Even the middle management officers are also making follow-ups. We will all be benefited if this would be granted...konting patience lang po.

Dwa la kaya na kayan ya ganaby way:

Ari qualified o manaki na bos mangipromote... hehehe

Kasing itim nang budhi ni blackman and mga bossing na ayaw magpromote sa mga tao nya buti pa si blackman maitim pero malinis ang budhi si bossing maputi at guapo pero maitim naman ang budhi hehehehehe. . . . peace

PERO KUNG ANG BOSSING NATIN AY KATULAD NI PARE JOSEPH NANG BATANES AC WALA KANG PROBLEMA.........MABAIT YAN....

uragon wrote:

aaahhhh..."PATIENCE" sarap pakinggan, laging sinasabi ni LBPEA1!!!! nyehheee:twisted: ....marami pong salamat Madam SONIA!!! naway maipatupad agad ito ng management!!! malaking tulong sa mga maralitang bangkero...

For my good friend Uragon:

It seems that we are allergic to the words PATIENCE and WAIT which is understandably through the valuable contribution of LBPEA1 . I myself is really careful in using these words in anticipation for the negative connotation and feedback they would get although we cannot avoid using them under certain circumstances. We seem to associate the words to the person who abused its usage.

However, let us change our perspective and make something good out of these words. "PATIENCE without ACTION" is extremely different from "PATIENCE with ACTION". The first phrase is what was created in our minds due to misuse of the word. But the second phrase aptly describes our patience for the long wait over our interim increase. Despite the wait and patience we did, it was realized because of the ACTION of some people to make things happen.

So Uragon when I use the word PATIENCE, please know that it is always coupled with the word ACTION.

I miss your BALAGTASAN with JUANPUSONG.

"Patience is waiting. Not passively waiting. That is laziness. But to keep going when the going is hard and slow -- that is patience (Unknown).