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A message from LBPEA Visayas Director SONIA D. BROTARLO
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It has been two (2) years and six (6) months that this website was closed.  Many were disappointed with the closure but we have to keep up with the fast changing technology - facebook and twitter, among others.  
 
With the remaining one month and a half of my stint as Director for Visayas, I have been ruminative as to the manner of my “consummatum est” in LBPEA.  Thus  here I am re-opening the website pro hac vice for my grand exit. 
 
This is the medium where you first knew me and this is where I want to personally reach out to you to express my deepest and heartfelt “THANK YOU” for all the years that you trusted me. 
 


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BLITZ



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PostSubject: Re: ACA PERA UPDATES   ACA PERA UPDATES - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:15 am

Malapit na mag umpisa ang negotiations para sa renewal ng CNA. Bago po maumpisahan ito, pwede ba tayo humingi ng data containing the approved and recently implemented IPP of all r & f? The last time that an increase was given us, we were provided with the CP3 Matrix which, in my belief, was not treated as confidential. Tapos na po yung implementation ng interim increase pero wala pa ring official info in this regard. This is the primary reason why we hear such complains from members about the "untog" issue. LBEA officers endeavored to answer the issues but all were not reinforced or backed-up with concrete bases because of the fact that management has not yet given them the official data on this matter.

It has been said before that our rolled-over CNA provides for our "Right to Information". Sec. 9.d. of which expressly states that: copies of Bank rules and regulations or personnel policies concerning and affecting the rights and welfare of r & f employees, as well as updates thereof, as far as practicable, prior to its effectivity. If this covenant could not be faithfully complied and adhered to by the contracting parties, what is then the use of putting it on the agreement anyway!
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PostSubject: Re: ACA PERA UPDATES   ACA PERA UPDATES - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Thu Aug 25, 2011 9:45 pm

Most rank and file employees are merely watching by the sidelines as the CNA negotiations are in progress. Then we wait for news on what could be happening. Since the CNA is important to the R & F, let us write the members of the management panel and LBPEA about our concerns. Everything.



Let us flood the rooms of these members with our letters. Let us let them know that we are interested in the outcome of the negotiations. This way, we are active participants wherever we are even if we are not directly involved in the negotiations.
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PostSubject: Re: ACA PERA UPDATES   ACA PERA UPDATES - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Fri Aug 26, 2011 10:15 am

thank you very much threadstone. really, every individual...every single member... are very important to the outcome of this CNA. and whatever the outcome of it is really important to all employees especially for us rank-and-file.

just like in our struggle for the interim pay plan, i'm asking for your support. let's use the very powerful PRAYER to achieve our goals.

thank you very much po.
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PostSubject: Re: ACA PERA UPDATES   ACA PERA UPDATES - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:26 pm

ano na po kaya ang balita dito? this started with the fight for the IPP. but ngaun, seems like this issues is super silent? kailangan pa ba ng approval ni P'Noy nito? Or baka naman d tau kasali sa increase in ACA/PERA based on the DBM circular? Or natabunan na ng GOCC act? parang wala na pong updated bout this thread.

semaj501 wrote:
"Patience is waiting. Not passively waiting. That is laziness. But to keep going when the going is hard and slow -- that is patience (Unknown).

i hope that we are patient means actively waiting... not passively waiting... hmmmm


tabi tabi po... ang tamaan sapul...
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PostSubject: Re: ACA PERA UPDATES   ACA PERA UPDATES - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Mon Sep 05, 2011 5:00 pm

mam jclemente, ang sabi po is may interpretation na daw na nakuha ang management ukol dito na seems advantageous sa atin lahat, ang problema ay yung implementation na kasi kelangan pa nila interpretation kung ipaimplement pa ito, bwahahhahaa:twisted: Twisted Evil ...
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PostSubject: Re: ACA PERA UPDATES   ACA PERA UPDATES - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:27 am

Blitz is precisely correct on the provision of The Right to Information. LBPEA is totally remiss in its duty to provide complete and updated information to its members nationwide. The LBPEA could not even print its own simple newsletter, so that those who have no access to computer/internet will have complete knowledge on what is happening. We have a president that does not know how to talk, who could not hear, and does not have the raw COURAGE to fight for the rights of his members. Except for Batman and Sonia, all the rest of LBPEA could not provide accurate info. Dahil ba tumatanggap kayo ng biyaya sa Provident Fund na P5,000 monthly each while sitting in the board, mananahimik at palamya-lamya nalang? Si Lito Chua dapat ay mahiya na. He is acting as spokesman of the management. Klaro pa sikat ng araw !!!
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PostSubject: Re: ACA PERA UPDATES   ACA PERA UPDATES - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:18 pm

the issue on ACA/PERA was raised during the discussion of the proposed section in the CNA that will ensure the existence of our benefits and its enhancement. per raw data presented by ms. nanet lati to the NEB and to the MGT panel, it seems that some GOCCs and GFIs who are SSL exempted were enjoying the increased ACA/PERA. however, ACA/PERA is obviously part of monetary benefits that was granted to government agency which is non-negotiable. though, the said matter was agreed to be discussed further after CNA. we'll gather more info and data that could justify our request. we'll inform the body about the matter later.
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sir batman, di po ba it was posted here that the cause of the delay on this PERA increase is the interpretation and after, may nakuha na rin sa wakas na interpretation on this na favorable nga sa lahat...what happened to that???? confused confused
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batman wrote:
i have sent last Tuesday (Aug. 16, 2011) our letter addressed to CSS Head/SVP Joji Cabreza asking for the status of the requested legal opinion which i heard have turned out to be favorable to us.

please wait for further information as soon as we received their response.

thank you very much.



ETO PO YUN SIR BATMAN...
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PostSubject: Re: ACA PERA UPDATES   ACA PERA UPDATES - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:23 pm

as mentioned by mam sonia: "ACA/PERA was partly discussed during the negotiation but unfortunately management's comment through Atty. Cervantes was negative"

during the discussion, it appears that legal opinion, as stated by atty. mon, is not favorable to us contrary to the rumor circulated that favorable legal opinion was then available. however, we will ask for the copy of such legal opinion when the meeting of the adhoc committee resume. thank you again sir.
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PostSubject: Re: ACA PERA UPDATES   ACA PERA UPDATES - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:23 pm

Gud pm mam Sonia, lagi nating nababanggit ang tungkol sa legal opinion, tanong ko lang, meron pa ba tayong legal officer sa LBPEA, puede bang malaman kung sino at ano ang kanyang opinyon dito sa ACA/PERA at pati na na rin sa COLA
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PostSubject: Re: ACA PERA UPDATES   ACA PERA UPDATES - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Thu Sep 15, 2011 6:53 pm

For capariz:
Atty. Martinez- one of the COLA Lawyers is also LBPEA's legal counsel so i dont need to elaborate on his legal opinion as to COLA but as to ACA/PERA definitely he is on our side.
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PostSubject: Re: ACA PERA UPDATES   ACA PERA UPDATES - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:50 am

any updates regarding this issue? where's the legal interpretation? has this been forgotten na?
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PostSubject: Re: ACA PERA UPDATES   ACA PERA UPDATES - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:48 am

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during the discussion, it appears that legal opinion, as stated by atty. mon, is not favorable to us contrary to the rumor circulated that favorable legal opinion was then available. however, we will ask for the copy of such legal opinion when the meeting of the adhoc committee resume. thank you again sir.

Sino pala ang nagbigay ng legal opinion regarding this issue? Baka naman ang kinuha nila na legal opinion ay kung pwede irefer sa legal ang bagay na ito? he he he
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PostSubject: Re: ACA PERA UPDATES   ACA PERA UPDATES - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Thu Oct 20, 2011 9:53 am

mas maganda siguro kung gawin nating official ang ating mga pagtatanong regarding status of ACA PERA natin. Gumawa tayo muli ng liham sa agency concern tulad ng ginawa natin sa ating salary increase, maaring sa DBM o Finance sa kanila kaya tayo humingi ng legal opinion at least neutral ground. Para di na tayo umasa kung hindi tayo qualified at kung qualified naman, sana ay maibigay na sa atin ng di na magkaproblema pa tulad ng COLA BEP
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PostSubject: Re: ACA PERA UPDATES   ACA PERA UPDATES - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Wed Nov 09, 2011 9:04 pm

sana bago magtapos ang taong ito ay mayroon nang resolution sa issue na ito.....
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PostSubject: Re: ACA PERA UPDATES   ACA PERA UPDATES - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:27 am

Let us just keep our fingers crossed Mr. BlackMan...in God's time for sure....
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PostSubject: Re: ACA PERA UPDATES   ACA PERA UPDATES - Page 2 Icon_minitime1Wed Nov 16, 2011 8:23 am

Ang coverage kasi ng Budget Circular 2009-3 are" employees whose positions are covered by Republic Act no 6758 "compensation and position classification Act of 1989". Hindi po tyo covered ng batas na to kasi may sarili po tayong charter.Yon ang interpretation ng Mgt. Ang issue lang naman natin dito ay bakit yong ibang exempted GOCCs and GFIs like us ay nag adjust na sa kani kanilang ACA/PERA. as far as i see the situation, sobrang prudent lang talaga yong ating mgt. nobody wants to take the risk of their signatures to approved and implement the ACA/PERA adjustment.

Sa exclusions ng circular, nakasaad naman doon that the following are excluded; Position for civilian personnel in government agencies which are authorized by law to adopt and are actually implementing their own compensation and position classification system". para po sa atin talaga to. Klaro na sa mga may sariling charter, we have our own compensation and classification system. kaya mas lalong naninindigan ang management na exempted po tayo sa adjustment ng ACA/PERA. Chances na lang daw natin dito, ay magkaroon na ng recommendation ang CGC sa isyung ito. Ang hinahabol lang naman talaga natin dito ay yong , may mga ibedensya po tayo na may mga exempted GOCCs and GFIs, adjusted ng ang ACA/PERA nila. Bakit tayo hindi at mas mababa pa compared to other GOCCs and GFIs?.

Isa pa pong justification natin. The law excludes the exempted GOCCs and GFIs like our institution. Pero there is provision on that circular about the payment of ACA/PERA in case of insufficiency on funds may lower the rates, provided as the grant thereof is as same rate with all the positions. Therefore, tayo pa kaya na earning institution?

Its a standard allowance and benefits given to all employees as additional compensation to supplement pay due to the rising cost of living" as stated in the circular. Tanong ko lang sa management, Bakit hindi po ba tayo affected by the rising cost of living?.. My argument on this, exempted tayo on this law, precisely because we have our own charter, we can decide on this issue tulad ng ibang exempted GOCCs and GFIs na nag adjust na ng ACA/PERA nila, and as an earning institution, pwede po tayong magbibigay sa ating mga empleyado na mas mataas pa sa isinasaad ng batas, or the same, (based on the provisions of the circular), pero hindi dapat na mababa tayo compared sa mga existing ngayon.. logical lang naman yan eh.. diba? wala po akong background sa law, pero naiintindihan ko naman yong batas what is due to us..pero ewan ko dito sa mga mgt. very prudent. nakakadismaya..peace..
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Tama ka dyan Specialist. Ang wisdom kung bakit hindi kasali ang mga GOCCS na exempt sa salary standardization law na mabigyan ng ACA/PERA increase ay dahil expected na kasi na nagbigay na ang mga ito sa kanilang mga empleyado.
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