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PostSubject: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Wed Jan 30, 2013 9:07 am

LBPEA President Edgar Allan Tecson sent this update last night through text message and I am posting it here with his permission:

Gud pm mam. wla pa rin pong gcg clearance re: step increase & profit sharing. d KAMMAGGFI wil b having dialogue wid chairman villanueva of gcg dis feb & lbpea wil represent lndbnk.

d ofcial stand of KAMAGGFI in w/c lbp is an original member is for d status quo of all GFIs, meaning to continue d existing benefits.

Also, we already discussed wid management re: lbpea's request for 50K tax free on our 50th golden anniv & we wer told to make d request asap we already drafted it and by 2moro mapa receive na.

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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Wed Jan 30, 2013 11:07 am

As compared with our counterpart-GOCCs belonging to category “Government Financial, Investment and Trust Institutions”, it appears that our existing basic salaries are inferior. Basis? the re-issued GCG MC No. 2012–11 on the Interim Performance-Based Incentive (PBI). Based on the matrix provided on the cited circular, the cap for all salary grades from 1 to 8 is high such that if it will be released, no one from the R & F will be able to receive the maximum amount that corresponds to his/her pay grade. Why? because nobody from us receives a salary high enough to entitle us to the maximum amount. Take for instance PG 4 (SG 10 under SSL), to enable the employee under this PG receive the maximum PBI of 86,275.00, the basic salary should be at least P34,510.00. The same is true for PG 8 (SG 21), the basic salary should be P78,986.00 to enable the employee receive the maximum PBI of P197,465.00… and so on…

What does this mean? It shows that employees of other similarly situated GOCCs falling in the same category with LBP in GCG’s classification may receive the maximum amount because the GCG should have not designed the PBI matrix by setting the maximum limits if in their study, there are no employees in other GOCCs who receives a basic salary of P34,510.00 and P78,986.00 for SG 4 and 8, respectively. In fact, it may occur that their basic salaries are more than the maximum amounts cited as example because the setting of the cap is obviously to regulate the PBI.

Hence, LBPEA officers who will be representing us should consider this scenario during the dialogue with the GCG Chair by inquiring the status of the Compensation and Position Classification System (CPCS) presently being conducted by TOWERS WATSON PHILIPPINES, INC. because the earlier the CPCS will be implemented, the better for all of us! Wala na ring “confidential” na sahod by then…
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:05 pm

Thanks Mam Sonia for the updates.
Thanks also to Atty. Semaj for all the information. God bless to both of you.
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:49 pm

You are welcome ramiliski. I suggest na during the dialogue with the GCG Chairman, matanong kung may mga GOCCs ba na nakakuha sa maximum PBB amount to prove na matataas nga basic salaries ng mga counterparts natin. At kung meron nga, baka pwede ring matanong kung ano ang plano sa mga GOCCs na mas mababa ang sahod na kasama naman sa classification nila in the "interim period". Masyado na kasing mahaba ang interim period at habang wala pa yung compensation plan galing sa GCG, tayo ang masyadong affected na nasa baba salungat sa mga nasa taas na masyadong matataas ang sahod kaya tinamaan sila sa maximum PBB amounts. Mabuti sana kung retroactive ang application para di naman tayo masyado affected!
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:25 pm

SALAMAT PO SA INYONG DALAWA MAM SONIA AND ATTY SEMAJ...this information and the facts mentioned are really true...GOD bless and more power po sunny
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Wed Jan 30, 2013 10:54 pm

WHAT HAPPEN TO LANDBANK????

10 PLAGUES for RANK AND FILE EMPLOYEES ARE ABOUT TO START.. PREPARE LANDBANKERS....
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Thu Jan 31, 2013 11:37 am

10 plagues? OMG!!!..para pala binuksan ang pandora's box, so to speak...kung plagues ang paguusapan puro bad news if that's the case..kawawa tayo mga rank and file if ever...what's happening talaga!!!..is this mere bulung-bulungan or coming from a reliable source?....ang sabi pa naman, if there is smoke, there's fire!!!...
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:49 pm

alut5724 wrote:
10 plagues? OMG!!!..para pala binuksan ang pandora's box, so to speak...kung plagues ang paguusapan puro bad news if that's the case..kawawa tayo mga rank and file if ever...what's happening talaga!!!..is this mere bulung-bulungan or coming from a reliable source?....ang sabi pa naman, if there is smoke, there's fire!!!...

Mam Alut: "God's delay is never God's denial" let us keep on praying for the best but let us brace ourselves for any eventuality.

Your LBPEA Officers are doing everything in the face of this difficult situation like having strong external alliance with KAMAGGFI. As what transpired during its meeting last January 28, KAMAGGFI will have a dialogue with GCG Chairman Villanueva this February and one of the issues which will be raised is the MIP of LandBank.

What we are going through right now is a reality of life although a passe this statement still holds true: "sometimes we are up sometimes we are down". However, let us be consoled with the fact that we still have our source of living- LandBank.

Maraming salamat po!


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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:43 pm

Hello Mam Sonia..as another saying goes, "reality bites"... what's happening to us in this year of the water snake as early as January maybe so disappointing but we simply have to accept things as they are meant to be...
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:34 pm

Ma'am Sonia,

I ask a friend of mine in DBP, and she said that their PBB we're already released last week. Bakit ang sa atin wala pa.
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:23 pm

Baka antayin na matapos ang interim period bago ibigay PBB natin! Typical style...NO SENSE OF URGENCY!
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:15 pm

...or baka hinihintay pa ang Election Ban para may reason na maatras ng maatras ang release...
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Thu Jan 31, 2013 7:16 pm

xtrymyx wrote:
Ma'am Sonia,

I ask a friend of mine in DBP, and she said that their PBB we're already released last week. Bakit ang sa atin wala pa.


As explained to us by the management, LANDBANK is still waiting for the result of validation on the PBB required documents submitted to GCG.

The other reason is that we still have pending request for GCG clearance on MIP1&3.

Ang pagka explain ni VP Shirley Meera tungkol sa meeting nila kasama ang management kapag hindi daw magbigay ng clearance ang GCG sa MIP1&3 ay hihingi ng request ang LANDBANK to maintain the existing MIP1, 2 & 3 or in other words STATUS QUO tayo. Hindi ipa implement ang PBB kasi po mas mataas ang ating matatanggap sa MIP1,2,& 3 kasi lahat meron especially sa MIP3-profit sharing natin na expected na mataas this year. Subalit kung ang PBB po ang ipa implement may 10% ng mga Landbankers ay walang matatanggap at mawawala rin po ang MIP1&3 ito po ay granting na hindi tayo bigyan clearance ng GCG.






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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:48 pm

Miss sonia pwede bang kumuha tayo ng labor lawyer para naman may adviser tayo pagdating sa legal na aspeto para hindi puro haka haka ang lumalabas na opinyon na nanggagaling sa bawat isa sa atin. Puro lawyer sa gcg ang makakaharap nyo in case na ma meet nyo sila eh anong kakayahan ang maitatapat nyo in case sa legal na argumento. Di ko po tintawaran ang inyong kakayahan subalit mas mainam na maitapat ang nararapat na pangangatwiran kung matibay ang basehan ng taong may kinalaman sa mga usapin na tatalakayin. Ito po naman ay suggestion lang sapagkat di po naman tayo ipagtatanggol ng mga abagodo sa ating tanggapan sapagkat sila ay nasa panig ng tanggapan nating pinaglilingkuran.
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:25 am

Crying or Very sad

it's just starting guys.. i want to be optimistic but it seems that its better to be pessimist on this day forward...
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:26 am

nlg0606 FYI... miss Sonia is a law graduate and just waiting for the result of the bar for her to be called Atty. and another one i dont think hindi tayo ipaglaban ng mga lawyer natin eh kasama naman lahat kahit na senior officer sa mga hinihiling natin sa GCG, at isa pa napakagulo na pag madami ang lawyer may kanya kanyang interpretation yan ng batas kung may 100 lawyer dyan sa negotiation 100 na iba ibang opinion din ang maririnig mo magpapagalingan lang mga yan, ang kailangan dyan simpleng mga tao lang na marunong umintindi.....
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:24 am

Ms. Angola FYI....alam ko kung sino si Miss Sonia at nag meet na kami sa Head Office. My point is iba ang may adviser na labor lawyer at wag mong naman sanang masamain ang suggestion ko kasi naranasan mo na bang makisama sa mga rally dito sa head office? For so many years aktibo kaming nakikipaglaban sa mga karapatan natin kahit may mga sandali na iniiwan kami ng namumuno sa LBPEA. Kung magkaganon saan tayo kukuha ng mga kasagutan sa mga legal na aspeto sa karapatan ng manggagawa kung walang lawyer na pwedeng mapapagtanungan.Ito naman ay pagpapahayag lang ng sariling opinyon o suhestiyon at walang di pagpapahalaga sa kakayahan ng namumuno sa ating asosasyon.
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:25 pm

I agree with you nlg0606, it's better to have an expert on our side in dealing with what we're fighting/asking for. besides not all new or aspiring to be a lawyer are an expert in law, it takes a lot of years in practice of law to master it...
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:42 pm

Naiintindihan po namin sa LBPEA ang hinaing ng lahat, pagbigyan muna natin ang ating mga LBPEA leaders na gumawa ng nararapat na paraan sa pagharap sa suliranin na ito.

LBPEA will be represented by Pres. Allan Tecson, VP Shirley Meera, and VP Marlon Faraon during the meeting of KAMAGGFI with GCG Chairman Cesar Villanueva. This is a dialogue between Union Leaders of different GOCCs/GFIs under KAMAGGFI and the GCG thus there is no need for Labor lawyers yet.

I would like to thank nig0606, ms angola, and xtrymyx for your posts and suggestions such contribution of your ideas is a proof of concern for the welfare of our association and of us all.









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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:44 pm

Sa tingin ko di kailangan ang lawyer kung yung sa dialogue lang naman with the GCG Chairman ang panggagamitan. Di naman adversarial ang nature ng endeavor, ang kailangan lang ay konting "guts", persuasive communication skills, at full preparation sa mga data/information para may basehan ang sasabihin. Isa pa, pag may abogado, kailangan ang lawyer's fee na sa pananaw ko ay di worth sa present circumstance!
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:48 pm

BLITZ wrote:
Sa tingin ko di kailangan ang lawyer kung yung sa dialogue lang naman with the GCG Chairman ang panggagamitan. Di naman adversarial ang nature ng endeavor, ang kailangan lang ay konting "guts", persuasive communication skills, at full preparation sa mga data/information para may basehan ang sasabihin. Isa pa, pag may abogado, kailangan ang lawyer's fee na sa pananaw ko ay di worth sa present circumstance!


I agree with you Sir BLITZ kaya uulitin ko po..

Naiintindihan po namin sa LBPEA ang hinaing ng lahat, pagbigyan muna natin ang ating mga LBPEA leaders na gumawa ng nararapat na paraan sa pagharap sa suliranin na ito.

LBPEA will be represented by Pres. Allan Tecson, VP Shirley Meera, and VP Marlon Faraon during the meeting of KAMAGGFI with GCG Chairman Cesar Villanueva. This is a dialogue between Union Leaders of different GOCCs/GFIs under KAMAGGFI and the GCG thus there is no need for Labor lawyers yet.
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Fri Feb 01, 2013 1:11 pm

To the representative of the union, I have one question that I will be asking from the GCG Chair If I am in your shoes. My question would be:

- Considering that there are GOCCs that have adopted, prior to R.A. No. 10149, their own performance-based incentive (PBI) systems on the basis of their respective charters having granted them a corporate autonomy over their respective compensation systems, what will be the effect of the Interim PBI authorized by the GCG to the old PBI authorized by the respective charters of the GOCCs?

The answer should address side issues such as:
1. Is the Interim PBI on top of the PBI previously received by GOCCs?
2. If not, how to apply the provision of GCG MEMORANDUM CIRCULAR NO. 2012–11 (RE-ISSUED) to: "adopt an interim PBI that is partially patterned after the policies and principles under E.O. 80, s. 2012 with the view of harmonizing and/or standardizing, as far as practicable, the performance based incentive system for GOCCs covered by R.A. No. 10149"? Take note of the phrase "as far as practicable",what does this mean and how to apply this?

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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:05 pm

Crying or Very sad kawawa naman talaga tayo ang tagal na ang ang paghihintay natin..tiis mga ka LBPEA...
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Fri Feb 01, 2013 2:43 pm

http://gcg.gov.ph/sem_wrkshp/Cascading%20for%20GOCCs%20-%20Oct%2015-16,%202012,%20Malacanang,%20Manila.pdf

This is the flowchart for the implementation of PBB during the Seminar conducted by GCG:




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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:56 pm

Any update/s?
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:01 pm



YON PA RING NASA ITAAS. . . HE HE
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:12 pm

BLITZ wrote:
Any update/s?

Nagtanong na po ako sa mga kasamahan kong NEB Officers sa Manila wala pa daw po malinaw na balita regarding sa gcg clearance





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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:17 pm

Cguro 2013 is Calamity Year for us...disaster talaga...kawawa naman tayo mga rank and file...
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Mon Feb 04, 2013 2:38 pm

Hindi naman siguro total na calamity year ang 2013. Do'nt worry , you will find out that for every misfortune,an equal if not more fortunate events will present itself.
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:44 pm

Guys! the update is that there is are no updates coming from our reliable sources...
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:46 pm

Si VP Shirley Meera nag inform po sa akin ngayon lang na nag request sila ng meeting with management last Friday baka within the week daw matuloy ang meeting.
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:39 pm

Meeting for what Madam?
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:59 pm

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Meeting for what Madam?

Last week pa kasi pinaabot ko na kay VP Shirley na marami nagrereklamo sa website na wala tayo natatanggap ang sabi nya hingi sila ng meeting sa management para may update kung ano na nangyari sa gcg clearance at kung pwede tayo sa cna incentive under dbm circular 2012-4..baka this week daw matuloy meeting ng LBPEA with management







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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Mon Feb 04, 2013 6:48 pm

nabasa ko sa inquirer business section sa Biz Buzz on the way out na daw si Mrs. Pico ano kaya maging effect sa atin?
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:13 pm

Sad
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:19 pm

better for us guys to expect for the worst to avoid frustration and dissappointment....
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:21 pm

AMEN lang kasi ng AMEN ang alam isagot sa mga issue... diba pedeng next tym DI PWEDE naman isagot?
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Tue Feb 05, 2013 1:47 pm

Kung sana inuna muna cguro i-follow up yun status ng usual natin natatanggap from January to June rather than yun sinasabi na 50K na i-request daw for the anniversary..first things first lang sana...malayo pa naman yung August..what about yun concerns from January to June most especially for the rank and file?...
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:12 pm

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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Tue Feb 05, 2013 10:48 pm

Ang target lang naman ng RA 10149 or known as GOCC Act 0f 2011 ay i regulates yong mga excessive perks ng mga abusadong Board of Directors and top officials of the GOCCS and GFIs. Hindi naman talaga target nito yong mga abang rank n file na tulad natin, kumakayod ng husto para pagyamanin at paaunlarin ang ating institution at makapag ambag ng malaki sa kaban ng bayan. Matuwid ba eto? sa pagpapatupad ng batas to regulates those abusive officials, eh tayong mga rank n file ang higit na napeperwisyo? Eto ba ang sinasabing "TUWID NA DAAN"? Kung ang management natin ay willing lang mag hintay sa hinahangad nating "clearance" from GCG, huwag po nating itulad ang ating sarili sa kanila, mahaba haba pa po tali nila. Bring this issue to the proper forum. Mag signature campaign po tayo at ipaparating sa mga kinaukulan, nasa bawat oras at araw na lumilipas, tayo ang higit na na apektuhan.
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Wed Feb 06, 2013 10:18 am

tama ka dyan...sir.....see you there in AOC - Zambo
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:31 am

Agree ako sa yo sir Specialist. One thing I dont understand is bakit ang mga rank & file ang naiipit or iniipit ng admistrasyong ito.
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:14 am

BEING A LANDBANKER NOWADAYS MAKES ME FEEL IM IN HELL......

GOODLUCK....
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:41 pm

This is the email address of the CGC feedback.... feedback@gcg.gov.ph
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:43 pm

I got it from gcggov.com
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:26 pm

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Last week pa kasi pinaabot ko na kay VP Shirley na marami nagrereklamo sa website na wala tayo natatanggap ang sabi nya hingi sila ng meeting sa management para may update kung ano na nangyari sa gcg clearance at kung pwede tayo sa cna incentive under dbm circular 2012-4..baka this week daw matuloy meeting ng LBPEA with management

Natuloy po ba ang meeting?
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:13 pm

ZZZ...ngork.... TULOG ATA MGA ADMINISTRATORS DITO AH! he he he
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:23 pm

hindi lang tulog, tulog na tulog na tulog, hehehehe peace, hello anyone out there!
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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:37 pm

Im overly astonished, surprised and shocked(ass!) to read posts just being away for 4 days from this website hahaha. I gave myself a one day gift away from the headaches of LBPEA last Thursday then on Friday I had meeting with the Unit Governors and conducted the Election of Regional Board for Region VIA. I visited different units and gave talks, updates, and entertained queries. And today is a local holiday in Panay Area. Im sorry guys-Atty Blitz and Sir Timbradley I know you miss me so much..wala kayong mapagbuntunan sa inis nyo dahil walang benefits ano? Ang hirap talaga maging LBPEA Officer hahaha




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PostSubject: Re: UPDATE FROM LBPEA PRESIDENT   Mon Feb 11, 2013 8:52 pm

kaya bilib na bilib ako sa inyo madam sonia. mahaba ang pisi nyo, di katulad ng secgen natin ngayon na mukhang madaling mapikon. hehe
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